healing and -- >> the real economy, not just the stock market bernanke economy. >> particularly in the small mid cap space we're investing, the companies tend to be less international and tend to be doing well. most, if not all are having record earnings this year. there's much so be worried about in the economy but the underlying economy is healing. >> you're talking about the consumer strength basically? most companies are consumer oriented. >> the consumer has been strong, industrial manufacturing has been strong, software has been strong, you know, it's -- i'm not generalizing the whole economy but our job is to find value in the market and certainly our companies are building cash flows and where they're importantly finding ways to unlock the value. >> joe is a fan of jack-in-the-box. >> i am. in contrast -- >> i am a fan of chico's. >> in contrast to other fast food chains although there aren't many i'm not a fan of. >> that's obvious. >> i like jack-in-the-box, too. the play on jack in the box, they used to have a corporate parent in the day so they wind up opening their own sto